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Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs

by danielkaiser123@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 4, 2008 at 07:54 AM

On Jul 2, 5:00=A0pm, Spinal Injury <> wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:42:57 -0700 (PDT), LadyKate
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> <ladyk...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >On Jul 1, 4:32=A0pm, danielkaiser...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> On Jul 1, 7:42=A0am, TONY S <kclo42...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > On Jul 1, 12:12 am, LadyKate <ladyk...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > > Not bismuth dioxide. Bismuth trioxide.
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> >> > > Skylighter is one source for either bismuth trioxide or bismuth
> >> > > subcarbonate. However, the prices are getting higher by the day.
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=A0I
> >> > > know a guy who is selling a 50 lb bag of bismuth trioxide for
1568
> >> > > bucks. ;-}
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> >> > > The lead oxides will be lots cheaper - you can get them through
> >> > > ceramic suppliers.
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> >> > I concur with kate. =A0www.quartzpegmatite.comhasleadtrioxide foe
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> >> > a pound
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> >> #@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 dragon eggs!
> >> Bismuth trioxide check, new copper oxide check, new Mag/al -80 thru
> >> +250 errr check.
> >> Screened the Mag/al and held -80 +100, went into the boonies of S.
> >> Indiana and picked up a new can of NC, along with my star roller from
> >> a buddy.
> >> This was my 8th attempt at crackle, to offset the chance of failure I
> >> stopped at a 1.4 shop and bought 2 types of "crackle balls".
> >> Made the 37.5-37.5-25 that Lady Kate spoke of, poured the NC which is
> >> a lot thinner than the double base I have and made a soup.
> >> Stirred it down till thick and cut.
> >> Unprimed,they smolder for awhile and throw an odd small spark.
> >> Took the crackle balls apart and burned a core.
> >> Very bright, and fast prime.
> >> I'm going to redissolve with a little more NC, and make a hot prime
> >> and see.
> >> I have a silicon green prime that I'll finish with.
> >> If anyone sees something amiss, please let me know.
> >> Dan
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> >Just in case - Use thick NC lacquer (15% or thicker). Not thin NC
> >lacquer that is used to make a thick mix of egg comp.
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> >I use much finer MgAl. I know, I know, everyone does it differently. I
> >don't know if that is your real problem but I use -325 MgAl and expect
> >a fairly quick pop when they are ignited. =A0Here is an often played
> >video:
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> >http://www.wichitabuggywhip.com/fireworks/extra/****hscrackle2.wmv
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> I've had no luck yet using subcarbonate, they just smolder there. The
> Trioxide works flawlessly though. I'm still experimenting by changing
> one and only one variable at a time, but my last try was:
> Bismuth Subcarb =A075
> MgAl -100 +200 =A0 15
> Copper Oxide =A0 =A0 =A0 10
> using 10% NC lacquer
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> As I said these failed, but substituting trioxide for the subcarbonate
> works everytime -
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> I'll next try 15% NC - if that still fails I'll drop back to 10% and
> go with finer (-200 +325) magnalium. It HAS to work sooner or later,
> but it's still frustrating nonetheless.
>
> -bob-- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Spinal Tap,
When I lite mine up unprimed they catch on corners and spread.
Fair pop.
I coated with ****mizu's Egg prime and they went turbo.
Very loud, and fast.
I put a coat of green mix BP with Silicon on last night and should be
dry in a few.
When I found that 81.8 Trioxide works, I've made 3 batches and all
work great.
With all the shooting last night, it ought to be crazy tonight.
Be careful,
Dan
 




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lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
Deren <drexen16@[EMAIL  2008-06-30 13:36:37 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
Deren <drexen16@[EMAIL  2008-06-30 13:43:19 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
LadyKate <ladykate@[EM  2008-06-30 14:44:09 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
Derek Nilsen <dereknil  2008-06-30 16:03:40 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
Deren <drexen16@[EMAIL  2008-06-30 18:03:09 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
LadyKate <ladykate@[EM  2008-06-30 21:12:39 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
TONY S <kclo42112@[EMA  2008-07-01 04:42:44 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
danielkaiser123@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-01 14:32:03 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
LadyKate <ladykate@[EM  2008-07-01 14:42:57 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
Spinal Injury <>   2008-07-02 17:00:39 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
danielkaiser123@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-01 15:42:19 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
danielkaiser123@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-01 21:39:18 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
danielkaiser123@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-04 07:54:31 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
Bobby <doityourselfpyr  2008-07-04 20:37:49 

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