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Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs

by danielkaiser123@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 1, 2008 at 09:39 PM

On Jul 1, 6:42=A0pm, danielkaiser...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Jul 1, 5:42=A0pm, LadyKate <ladyk...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Jul 1, 4:32=A0pm, danielkaiser...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On Jul 1, 7:42=A0am, TONY S <kclo42...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > On Jul 1, 12:12 am, LadyKate <ladyk...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > Not bismuth dioxide. Bismuth trioxide.
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> > > > > Skylighter is one source for either bismuth trioxide or bismuth
> > > > > subcarbonate. However, the prices are getting higher by the day.
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> > > > > know a guy who is selling a 50 lb bag of bismuth trioxide for
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> > > > > bucks. ;-}
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> > > > > The lead oxides will be lots cheaper - you can get them through
> > > > > ceramic suppliers.
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> > > > I concur with kate. =A0www.quartzpegmatite.comhasleadtrioxidefoe
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> > > > a pound
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> > > #@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 dragon eggs!
> > > Bismuth trioxide check, new copper oxide check, new Mag/al -80 thru
> > > +250 errr check.
> > > Screened the Mag/al and held -80 +100, went into the boonies of S.
> > > Indiana and picked up a new can of NC, along with my star roller
from
> > > a buddy.
> > > This was my 8th attempt at crackle, to offset the chance of failure
I
> > > stopped at a 1.4 shop and bought 2 types of "crackle balls".
> > > Made the 37.5-37.5-25 that Lady Kate spoke of, poured the NC which
is
> > > a lot thinner than the double base I have and made a soup.
> > > Stirred it down till thick and cut.
> > > Unprimed,they smolder for awhile and throw an odd small spark.
> > > Took the crackle balls apart and burned a core.
> > > Very bright, and fast prime.
> > > I'm going to redissolve with a little more NC, and make a hot prime
> > > and see.
> > > I have a silicon green prime that I'll finish with.
> > > If anyone sees something amiss, please let me know.
> > > Dan
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> > Just in case - Use thick NC lacquer (15% or thicker). Not thin NC
> > lacquer that is used to make a thick mix of egg comp.
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> > I use much finer MgAl. I know, I know, everyone does it differently. I
> > don't know if that is your real problem but I use -325 MgAl and expect
> > a fairly quick pop when they are ignited. =A0Here is an often played
> > video:
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> >http://www.wichitabuggywhip.com/fireworks/extra/****hscrackle2.wmv-Hide
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> LK,
> Would using the finer mixed mesh, -100 thru +250 mess it up?
> I can pour some NC out and let it thicken.
> I've watched that vid so many times.
> How big did you cut the cores?
> I followed you tweaking ****h's crackle, and something then was telling
> me that noise "effect" stars aren't my forte.
> I sometimes get caught up in something and get frustrated.
> I let go of it, and then I try again.
> I might try a smaller mesh in a bit.
> I have a # of the trioxide, so I can expermint.
> Side note I automated my "Bleser" bowl.
> Thought it was SS, but it's chrome plate brass.
> I have the same roller.http://pyrotechnics.no-ip.org/files/hpim0789.jpg
> Forgot, that 1.4 store in IN. has sky lanterns too.
> Dan- Hide quoted text -
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The 81.8 Bismuth Trioxide works.
Mag/al -100 thru +250, and 10% NC just like AFNIII.
1/16" <2mm cube.
Still about 2 seconds to spool up.
Real nice crack.
I can sleep tonight.
Thanks for the help LK.
Dan
 




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lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
Deren <drexen16@[EMAIL  2008-06-30 13:36:37 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
Deren <drexen16@[EMAIL  2008-06-30 13:43:19 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
LadyKate <ladykate@[EM  2008-06-30 14:44:09 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
Derek Nilsen <dereknil  2008-06-30 16:03:40 
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Deren <drexen16@[EMAIL  2008-06-30 18:03:09 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
LadyKate <ladykate@[EM  2008-06-30 21:12:39 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
TONY S <kclo42112@[EMA  2008-07-01 04:42:44 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
danielkaiser123@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-01 14:32:03 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
LadyKate <ladykate@[EM  2008-07-01 14:42:57 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
Spinal Injury <>   2008-07-02 17:00:39 
Re: lead tetraoxide or bismuth oxide for Dragon Eggs
danielkaiser123@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-01 15:42:19 
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danielkaiser123@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-01 21:39:18 
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danielkaiser123@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-04 07:54:31 
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