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Re: Danica Patrick - Gentlemen Start Your Engines!

by Agent Smith <agent-smith@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 5, 2008 at 06:22 PM

Booger <strmbrgr2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Apr 4, 10:58 am, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> >> >> >> > "garantat.net" <warranty_4_c...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> >> >> >> > > Danica Patrick - Gentlemen Start Your Engines!
>>
>> >> >> >> >> > Gentlemen only start their engines for girly girls, not
>> >> >> >> >> > for the manly on
>> >> >> >> > es.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> Robby Gordon started this. if he was serious he'd drop 20
>> >> >> >> >> pounds to be like his brother Jeff. There's a NASCAR
>> >> >> >> >> driver by the name of martin who weighs about 135. No one
>> >> >> >> >> at nascar is whining..
>>
>> >> >> >> > Certainly, I hope you know that Robbie and Jeff are NOT
>> >> >> >> > related at all.  Nascar mandates a total weight for car
>> >> >> >> > and driver (a minimum). Anything over the minimum is just
>> >> >> >> > a disadvantage for the team.  But they all have to make
>> >> >> >> > the minimum.  Too bad you
>>
>> >> >> >> > don't know what you're
>>
>> >> >> >> > talking about.
>>
>> >> >> >> I think they should take off all the equipment restrictions,
>> >> >> >> except safety requirements, and let the engineers go wild.
>> >> >> >>  ?;) 
> 
>>
>> >> >> > It would make for better racing...
>>
>> >> >> It would also make for better engineering, and there's really
>> >> >> no reason to do otherwise, other than the fact that the s****t
>> >> >> is hidebound.  If they opened the techincal floodgates, track
>> >> >> speeds would hit 275 mph within probably five years.
>>
>> >> >> Of course, it does raise the question of what would happen if
>> >> >> they put nitro-methane into the cars, as they do with the funny
>> >> >> cars and dragsters that run the quarter mile sprints.  Those
>> >> >> things get 
> 
>> >> >> up to 300
>>
>> >> >> mph within just that short distance, making nitro the obvious
>> >> >> first choice for new technical ideas.
>>
>> >> >> I figure that nitro-methane should dissolve in ethanol, and if
>> >> >> I'm right, you could build something resembling a flex fuel
>> >> >> race car, to stabilize the stuff against explosion.  But then,
>> >> >> I suppose that "the
>>
>> >> >> stuff" must already be stabilized against explosion, or the
>> >> >> quarter mile tracks would be a **lot** more interesting.  ;(
>>
>> >> >> I wonder what chemical they use to stabilize it, and what
>> >> >> fraction they have to put in?
>>
>> >> > Dunno., maybe a little of the stuff they coat air****t runways
>> >> > when a plane's llanding gear is bollixed.. it is sold as an
>> >> > water pump lubricant called "water wetter"..
>>
>> >> I cross-posted to rec.pyro, so if anybody knows the answer, it
>> >> will be them.  I'm not optimistic, though, because, like most
>> >> people on usenet, they pretend to know more than they actually do.
>>
>> > So tell us there Joe. Whats a RED BOX??
>>
>> See what I mean. He has nothing but rage, hostility and belligerence
>> and no meaningful information.  He just plays games by changing the
>> subject, 
> 
>> and gushes a torrent of hatred, Jack.  He deserves his nickname,
>> because 
> 
>> he truly is a booger.
> 
> Anyway, to answer your question. I have seen many a time they will
> actually drop the drums of NM of the truck at races. No explosion so I
> would take a guess that it is relatively stable. 


Did the drum rupture and spill all over the pavement?

Of course it's stable at the track, because it would be very inconvenient 
to have to mix it while they're time is occupied with racing issues.  It
is 
also terrible idea to have high explosives near crowds of people and 
dragsters blowing flames out of their exhaust ****ts.  This isn't something

that they would do on site, but in a refinery or in some kind of
waystation 
between the two.

Here's a site that says that it will ignite under a hammer blow, and that 
it has to have some benzene added, not to prevent explosion, but to get
the 
ignition temperature down low enough for it to be useful.

http://www.wediditforlove.com/techtalk4.html

> I did a search for NM stabilization and most of the hits are for
actually 
> using NM to stabilize other mixtures.

I did the same and also couldn't find anything, however, wiki claims that 
it can explode under rare cir***stances.  They say that a railroad car
full 
of the stuff once blew up, and that "inhibitors" are sometimes added.  I 
had no luck finding what they are or how much is used, so maybe the
benzene 
does double duty.  In that case, I don't understand why plain old gasoline

wouldn't serve the same purpose.  Why screw with toxins, when you can
screw 
with harmless stuff?

They also say that you can mix in ammonium nitrate to make it more 
explosive.  Hydrazine will make it into a dangerously unstable explosive, 
because it's always useful to have some of that handy, har har.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitromethane#Explosive_properties
 




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Re: Danica Patrick - Gentlemen Start Your Engines!
Booger <strmbrgr2@[EMA  2008-04-04 15:40:28 
Re: Danica Patrick - Gentlemen Start Your Engines!
Agent Smith <agent-smi  2008-04-05 18:22:30 

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