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Re: Don't buy Martin!

by "E. Lee Dickinson" <lee@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 8, 2008 at 10:52 PM

Not to feed the troll, but just to keep the public record clear:

This sort of 'review' is almost always caused by someone who lacks a basic

knowledge of light consoles and control, is unable to read or comprehend
the 
manual, and calls up the manufacturer expecting them to teach them from 
scratch.

"I have a maxxyz. How do I program it to make the lights do what I want?"

Not gonna get an answer from tech sup****t. That's a user application 
question, not a technical sup****t question.

<nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:0kk5245kp0upnsjdpj2301fa1k856nhgbn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> If you're considering which moving lights to buy, don't
> include Martin in your consideration. If you're considering
> which console to buy, especially do NOT consider getting
> a Maxxyz! Everyone I've encountered who has been around
> one has had bad experiences with it. Worst of all there is no
> sup****t from the manufacturer. If you call them with a problem,
> they tell you they have no one who can help you. They refer
> you to a lame forum, and that's the "best" you can get out of
> them. It is all so pathetic that it's hard to believe, but it's true.
> Stay far away from Martin if you don't like things that suck.
 




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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-08 19:22:06 
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Stuart Wheaton <sdwhea  2008-05-08 20:17:59 
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john Chenault <john.ch  2008-05-09 12:31:46 
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"Duncan Wood" &  2008-05-09 20:58:09 
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Barbara Bailey <rabrab  2008-05-09 22:18:19 
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"David McCall"   2008-05-09 20:25:24 
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Christopher Jahn <cjah  2008-05-10 11:04:41 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-11 11:42:23 
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"Duncan Wood" &  2008-05-11 18:54:37 
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Christopher Jahn <cjah  2008-05-11 16:11:39 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-12 10:41:39 
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"Duncan Wood" &  2008-05-12 21:23:23 
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Christopher Jahn <cjah  2008-05-13 07:38:27 
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rigger <dave.vick@[EMA  2008-06-10 21:09:56 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-11 09:13:12 
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rigger <dave.vick@[EMA  2008-06-11 20:37:03 
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"rrr" <rpete  2008-06-12 00:25:35 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-12 15:42:20 
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"Duncan Wood" &  2008-06-12 21:27:44 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-16 10:11:54 
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0junk4me@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-12 20:28:07 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-16 10:14:07 
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Christopher Jahn <cjah  2008-06-16 17:52:41 
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ny <nooooooo@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-17 10:12:06 
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Freesias <Freesias@[EM  2008-06-17 07:43:50 
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"M.C.Gordon Jr"  2008-05-20 04:15:50 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-20 11:40:16 
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Torrance Bell <starlit  2008-05-20 15:12:16 
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Christopher Jahn <cjah  2008-05-20 20:44:06 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-21 10:23:36 
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"Duncan Wood" &  2008-05-21 15:36:28 
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"Duncan Wood" &  2008-05-20 22:17:27 
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Christopher Jahn <cjah  2008-05-20 20:41:35 
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Christopher Jahn <cjah  2008-05-11 16:19:04 
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Stuart Wheaton <sdwhea  2008-05-11 22:59:39 
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rigger <dave.vick@[EMA  2008-05-21 14:46:21 
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"Duncan Wood" &  2008-05-21 23:01:14 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-10 09:59:17 
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"Duncan Wood" &  2008-06-11 07:26:01 
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"Peter Herman"   2008-06-11 10:17:28 
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Christopher Jahn <cjah  2008-06-11 18:52:21 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-12 15:49:22 
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rigger <dave.vick@[EMA  2008-06-17 08:48:43 
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Christopher Jahn <cjah  2008-06-17 17:03:35 
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Stuart Wheaton <sdwhea  2008-06-17 18:48:09 
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ny <nooooooo@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-18 09:50:30 
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rigger <dave.vick@[EMA  2008-06-17 16:19:59 
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Christopher Jahn <cjah  2008-06-17 21:03:01 
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rigger <dave.vick@[EMA  2008-06-18 00:25:01 
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"Peter Herman"   2008-06-18 10:43:40 
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John W Kennedy <jwkenn  2008-06-19 18:48:34 
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Torrance Bell <starlit  2008-06-19 17:50:58 
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John W Kennedy <jwkenn  2008-06-19 21:36:52 
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EKeil <ekeil@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-15 08:28:57 
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Christopher Jahn <cjah  2008-05-15 18:34:39 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-18 11:39:01 
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Christopher Jahn <cjah  2008-05-18 22:06:35 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-18 20:02:53 
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Christopher Jahn <cjah  2008-05-19 04:08:21 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-18 11:37:32 
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Torrance Bell <starlit  2008-05-18 21:06:56 
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rigger <dave.vick@[EMA  2008-06-16 14:12:52 
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ny <nooooooo@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-17 10:13:22 
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Michael Neff <poetsold  2008-06-08 12:11:07 
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"Duncan Wood" &  2008-06-08 20:13:31 
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Bert Morris <bertmorri  2008-06-08 21:37:59 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-09 23:39:14 
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Stuart Wheaton <sdwhea  2008-06-10 10:16:38 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-11 09:19:36 
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"Peter Herman"   2008-06-11 10:11:00 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-12 15:44:42 
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Christopher Jahn <cjah  2008-06-11 18:41:46 
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FluxionDesigns <stephe  2008-06-09 06:59:29 
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Torrance Bell <starlit  2008-06-09 10:29:46 
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"M.C.Gordon Jr"  2008-06-09 11:57:50 
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"Smoking Causes Lung  2008-05-14 07:33:14 
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Stuart Wheaton <sdwhea  2008-05-13 17:35:35 
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Christopher Jahn <cjah  2008-05-13 22:39:27 
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Christopher Jahn <cjah  2008-05-13 22:36:07 
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"Smoking Causes Lung  2008-05-14 23:16:50 
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Christopher Jahn <cjah  2008-05-14 07:36:13 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-18 11:39:41 
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"Duncan Wood" &  2008-05-18 16:49:39 
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Christopher Jahn <cjah  2008-05-18 22:04:17 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-19 10:08:54 
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"Duncan Wood" &  2008-05-19 15:30:02 
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"David McCall"   2008-05-19 15:13:18 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-29 23:06:39 
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"Peter Herman"   2008-05-14 21:32:33 
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Christopher Jahn <cjah  2008-05-14 23:30:33 
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"Duncan Wood" &  2008-06-18 00:08:31 
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Mark McNeill <markonne  2008-05-16 14:53:05 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-29 23:15:33 
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"Smoking Causes Lung  2008-05-15 20:04:05 
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"Duncan Wood" &  2008-05-15 10:55:49 
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"Duncan Wood" &  2008-06-10 07:44:12 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-12 15:49:44 
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ny <nooooooo@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-18 14:53:09 
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"Duncan Wood" &  2008-06-12 21:20:12 
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Torrance Bell <starlit  2008-06-11 16:08:55 
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Christopher Jahn <cjah  2008-06-11 18:28:07 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-12 15:49:04 
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nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-12 15:47:50 
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Torrance Bell <starlit  2008-06-12 15:04:30 
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Stuart Wheaton <sdwhea  2008-06-12 20:38:33 
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