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Re: Don't buy Martin!

by nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jun 11, 2008 at 09:19 AM

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:16:38 -0400, Stuart Wheaton <sdwheaton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:

>nooooooo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>
>
>>> I would like to purchase one light, Parcam size, small spot maybe,
>>> which could be used remotely to follow an actor. The High School
>>> theater has little funding and no room for large normal spotlights to
>>> follow moving actors, nor do we have enough instruments to fill all
>>> the holes as they wander during a song. Could someone give me some
>>> ideas- companies, prices? dependable is im****tant but price is key.
>> 
>> It's very likely that your front lights are too close to the stage, if
not
>> directly over the front of it. That is a very very common problem. 
>> You can try solving it by using floods or diffusion filters, but that
>> makes them too dim imo. 
>
>>The best solution I've found for that sort of
>> problem is to use NSP par lamps and move them back far enough
>> that they can wash the whole stage.
>
>Dumbest thing you've said yet.

Yet it worked for me many times and every time, and you 
don't have a suggestion that's as good much less better.
Or do you? If so, why not share it instead of just *****ing
about something that does work?

>> Then you might not have to
>> buy any more lights, but you probably would have to buy some 
>> more power chord
>
>How much for 100 feet of C major?
>
>> and whatever else it takes to get them there.
>> You can't fill an entire video screen if the projector is too close
>> and the same is true with lighting a stage, but for some reason(s)
>> people much too often don't seem able to figure that one out. 
>> When I was doing lights for a band that was playing different bars
>> every week I eventually learnd that lesson, and how to overcome
>> it. I bought some cheap galvanised tubing (for the top of chain link
>> fences) at places like Lowe's and always kept it on hand. When
>> the house's downstage light bar was too close--which was most
>> if not all of the time--I'd hang my own where it needed to be. 
>
>Wow! a new record for dumb ideas, fence pipe as lighting position!  

Try explaining exactly what's wrong with using fence pipe, and
also what sort of pipe should be used instead and why.

>Do I 
>dare ask how you rigged it?  Cheapest clothesline you could find?
>
>> If I
>> thought we'd be going back a few times, I left it there.
>
>Always a good idea with cheesy rigging!
>
>
>> Another 
>> light guy I was sort of friends with started doing the same thing
>> too, so it was good for lots of people over the years. One place
>> in particular I asked the owner if I could leave what I put up, 
>> and he said: 'No because one else would use it.' I went ahead
>> and left it there anyway.
>
>So, you can't obey the instructions of the guys who own the spaces you 
>work in.

It benefitted many people over a period of several years, and 
if the guy still didn't like it after the first week, or month, or year,
or two years, or three years, or four years...it would have only
taken him long enough to say: "Get that thing down." to one of
his employees, or to me when he saw me in there, and it would 
have been gone. Since he didn't have it taken down, and every
band I saw in there made use of it, it seems that it quite possibly
was a good idea and the owner was able to figure that out. So it
looks like you have no good complaint but only wish that you did. 

>> In the five or six or however many years
>> that followed, every band I saw in there used the bar I left and 
>> none of them ever used the original one that was still there (and
>> much prettier btw) except for one band that had more lights than
>> they could get on the one I left (the one I left was also several
>> feet longer than the original).
 




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