Re: Belief in God 'childish,' Jews not chosen people: Einstein letter

On Thu, 15 May 2008 00:37:58 GMT, "pinky" <pinknebulous@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>"Hatunen" <hatunen@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 15:59:56 -0700, The Starmaker
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>>>On Wed, 14 May 2008 15:53:13 -0700, The Starmaker
>>><starmaker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>On Wed, 14 May 2008 14:03:27 -0700, Hatunen <hatunen@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>On Wed, 14 May 2008 13:53:19 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>><starmaker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>On Wed, 14 May 2008 12:29:53 -0700, Hatunen <hatunen@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>On Tue, 13 May 2008 14:31:29 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>><starmaker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>Albert Einstein was on more communist organizations than Stalin
>>>>>>>>himself!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Stalin was on the im****tant one. But, as mentioned before,
>>>>>>>Einstein was a commited pacifist, which would certainly, at that
>>>>>>>time in American history, put him on some suspicion lists.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Einstein wasn't much of a joiner. Could you name some of those
>>>>>>>organizations? Say, five of them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You want me to be your Teaching Company? You want to learn all about
>>>>>>Albert Eienstein from *me*?? And you majored in Physics, and I
barely
>>>>>>made it out of high school??? What's the world coming to????
>>>>>
>>>>>I knew his physics quite well. His private life didn't come up
>>>>>much.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you have no interest in our learning about Einstein from you,
>>>>>just why are you posting all this information about him? Aren't
>>>>>you trying to teach us about him? Why stop at just mentioning
>>>>>those organizations? Why not name some of them? Or give a
>>>>>citation?
>>>>>
>>>>>And what's the joke where you keep mispelling his name?
>>>>>
>>>>>I suppose it could be that you're just blowing smoke out of your
>>>>>arse, though.
>>>>
>>>>I bet you're a lazy goy!
>>>>
>>>>The World Congress Against Imperialist War - The Communist
>>>>International (Comintern) organized this congress which was attended
>>>>by over 800 Communist delegates from around Europe with Albert
>>>>Einstein serving on the "International Organizing Committee."
>>>>The Worker's International Relief - Einstein was a great admirer and
>>>>sup****ter of this creation of the Comintern.
>>>>The War Resisters International - Affiliated with Anarchist and
>>>>Communist groups, this group considered Einstein an imminent member
>>>>and spokesperson.
>>>>World Congress of the Anti-Imperialist League - Einstein served as a
>>>>leader of this Comintern affiliate.
>>>>The War Resisters League - American sister-organization of the War
>>>>Resisters International, Einstein was chosen to be "Honorary
>>>>Chairman."
>>>>American League Against War and Fascism - Einstein is on record of
>>>>endorsing their convention in Pittsburgh, November of 1937, called the
>>>>"People's Congress for Democracy and Peace." Earl Browder, vice
>>>>president of the League and General Secretary of the Communist Party,
>>>>addressed this convention.
>>>>North American Committee to Aid Spanish Democracy - Anarcho-Communist
>>>>organization, Einstein served on the Advisory Committee.
>>>>Friends of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade - An organization dedicated to
>>>>bring back members from Spain of the "Abraham Lincoln Brigade" which
>>>>recruited American volunteers into a Anarcho-Communist partisan army
>>>>to fight in the Spanish Civil War. Einstein was a member of the
>>>>National Campaign Committee of this organization.
>>>>International Labor Defense* - Used at times as a legal defense
>>>>organization, was directly connected to the Communist Party. Einstein
>>>>affiliated.
>>>>League of American Writers - Communist culture front for Marxist
>>>>writers. Einstein affiliated.
>>>>Joint Anti-Fascist Refugee Committee - Used to rescue Communist
>>>>operatives from unsympathetic lands and obtain grateful manpower as
>>>>"useful idiots." Einstein affiliated.
>>>>Committee for Peace through World Cooperation - The name speaks for
>>>>itself. One world government Comintern front group. Einstein
>>>>affiliated.
>>>>National Committee for American-Soviet Friend****p - Originally founded
>>>>in 1920 as the "Friends of the Soviet Union." Einstein affiliated.
>>>>American Friends of the Chinese People - Front group for aid of
>>>>Chinese Communists. Einstein affiliated.
>>>>American Committee for the Protection of the Foreign Born - Comintern
>>>>front group. Einstein affiliated.
>>>>National Federation for Constitutional Liberties* - Einstein was a
>>>>sup****ter of this Communist front formed to protect Communists from
>>>>questioning by government agencies and to abolish the Un-American
>>>>Committee which was unearthing Communists in entertainment and
>>>>government positions.
>>>>Spanish Refugee Relief Campaign - Front to assist Communist agents who
>>>>were kicked out of the country by Spanish Nationalists. Einstein
>>>>affiliated.
>>>>
>>>>At a dinner party in 1948, he told the Polish Ambassador to the US, "I
>>>>suppose you must realize by now that the US is no longer a free
>>>>country, that undoubtedly our conversation is being recorded. The room
>>>>is wired, and my house is closely watched."
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>> I've actually been reading the FBI file. It's fourteen sepearate
>> PDF files nad, unfortunately, about half of them won't download.
>>
>> Apparently you decided to read it too, at least part 1a, since
>> your cites seem to come directly from that part.
>>
>> Note that these are all allegations made in the depths of the
>> McCarthy era. There seems to be little proof. Einstein is said to
>> be "affiliated with" these groups, some of which were pacifist
>> groups and soem of which had laudable objectives even though tehy
>> had sup****t from Communists. For instance, Communist sup****t of
>> free speech is obvipously self-serving but nevertheless it is an
>> express right in the US constitution.
>>
>> It has been amusing reading Part 1a, just to see the sort of
>> stuff J Edgar Hoover kept. Anonymous postcards to J Edgar saying
>> to watch out for Einstein. But my favorite is the card saying...
>>
>>  "ALBERT EINSTEIN
>>   Are we safe with Atomic Energy as logn as we have men like
>>   Einstein on our list? Watch out for him."
>>
>> ...followed by a parenthetical ...
>>
>>   "(P.S. Flying saucers are small experiments by Russia for disks
>>    1000 times larger -- later on)"
>>
>> ... and signed ...
>>
>>   "American"
>>
>> But my favorite Spy vs Spy part is the several internal memos to
>> J Edgar from D.M. Ladd, starting on 25 April 1949:
>>
>> "I thought you might be interested in the following information
>> furnished to the Los Angeles Office by [deleted]."
>>
>> "Accordint to [deleted] is quite friendly with Mrs Albert
>> Einstein, and the Einsteins have informed her that all their
>> present actions are influenced by the fact that Albert Einstein,
>> Jr. is presently in the Soviet Union. [deleted] also advised
>> [deleted] that Mrs Albert Einsteind is "scared to deaath" [sic
>> quotes] over the cact that her son is in Russia and may be held
>> as a hostage to force some particualr action on the part of
>> Professor Einstein"
>>
>> "It is not known at this time whether Albert Einstein, Jr. is in
>> fact in the Soviet Union."
>>
>> Well, hell. Albert Einstein, Jr. may have not only been in the
>> Soviet Union he might have been sleeping with Stalin for all it
>> mattered. The first simple fact is that THE Albert Einstein
>> didn't have a son Albert Einstein, Jr. He did have a son named
>> Hans Albert Einstein, but that's not a "Jr". The second simple
>> fact is that there was no Mrs Albert Einstein at the time the
>> incident supposedly occured because Einstein's second and last
>> wife had died years earlier.
>>
>> But did anyone at the FBI point out that the people in question
>> simply didn't exist? Noooooo. They sent more memos indicating
>> they were making inquires at Princeton as to the whereabouts of
>> Albert Einstein, Jr. This went on well into 1950 adn may have
>> gone longer but I can's seem to download Part 1b.
>>
>> I'm not going to sit down and try to ferret out which of the
>> organizations you mention above was actually a Communist
>> organization nor whether it was on the infamous Attorney
>> General's List of Subversive Organizations, a list largely
>> compiled by paranoids. I had to sign loyalty oaths swearing I
>> didn't belong to any of the organizations on the list a couple of
>> times, the last on being inducted into the Army in 1960.
>>
>> It's really hard to take the file seriously, but as a student of
>> American history and having lived through the era I'm going to
>> read as much as I can.
>>
>>>>Did I tell you he was banging other girls while he was married?
>>
>> Oooooh. Cool. Gossip: Famous person cheats on spouse. But years
>> too late. Anyone who has read one of the several biographies on
>> Einstein already knows that. He was a very talented guy and
>> talent is an aphrodisiac, not to mention he wasn't bad-looking
>> when he was young.
>>
>> You must be very naive to think that spousal infdelity is
>> exciting dirt.
>>
>>>It has be said that Albert Einstein was *worse* than Stalin.
>>
>> Really? Einstein did something as bad as killing and dispossesing
>> millions of Kulaks? Or deliberately causing a famine that starved
>> to death up to seven million farmers?
>>
>>>That
>>>could explain why Israel wanted him to be President of Israel.
>>
>> Because he didn't mind killing off millions of potential
>> opponents.
>>
>>>That Omert guy you got as Prime Minister of Israel, he's is garbge.
>>>You should just shoot him.
>>
>> I thought the subject was Einstein.
>>
>> Do you agree with German scientists like Philipp Lenard that
>> Einstein's theories of relativity are "Jew science" and should
>> not be used by red-blooded non-Jewish scientists?
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>Of course he does.  If it's Jewish, he doesn't like it, never has liked
it 
>and never will like it.  Why argue?
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>pink 
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